L2Holy: Glyphs

21 Apr

Welcome to the second post in my L2Holy series!  In this entry, I will cover the various choices that a holy priest has, in terms of glyphs and which ones would be the better option for you.  Since we can now swap glyphs, based on the particular needs of a fight, there may not be one set spread of glyphs that a priest will use all the time.  You may find that one or two are really situational and that you swap them in and out as needed.  It’s always a good idea to keep some Dust of Disappearance on you, for situations such as this.

Prime Glyphs

Glyph of Power Word: Shield
I would recommend this glyph for a holy priest who is just beginning to get comfortable with the new Cataclysm style of healing and who is still doing a lot of regular 5 mans and may be just starting to dabble in Heroic 5 mans.  This would also be a useful glyph for a holy priest who finds they are asked to tank heal in a raid setting.

While there is some debate about how often you should be shielding your tank while tank healing (due to conflicts with discipline priests trying to do the same thing and the potential advantages of them doing so), if you are able to shield your tank, the heal from this glyph will refresh the Renew on the them while you are in Chakra: Serenity.  This means your Renew has less of a chance to fall off and you can spend more time and mana on throwing other heals on your assigned tank.

Glyph of Lightwell
This is an absolute must for any holy priest.  The healing that comes from Lightwell can easily be one of your highest showing heals on the meters, provided the members of your raid are utilizing it fully.  Lightwell is also seen as one of the most mana efficient healing spells in the game, because of how much healing you get out of it for its reasonable mana cost.  Having an extra 5 charges at your disposal can only add to this and can really see your group through some difficult times, where the damage output is high and mana may be tight.  Make sure you take this one!

Glyph of Guardian Spirit
Let’s be honest.  Guardian Spirit is a large part of the reason that we get taken to raids.  We certainly do bring other things to the table, but at a time where having a reliable cooldown is everything Guardian Spirit really shines.  While the current incarnation of this glyph is not nearly as powerful as it was, it still should have a place on any holy priest’s glyph page.  This glyph should also serve as motivation for those that tend to hold tight to their cooldowns and may not use them as freely as they should.  Use Guardian Spirit as needed and know that a glyph like this will help it come back around to be used again that much more quickly.

Glyph of Prayer of Healing
Behind Circle of Healing, Prayer of Healing is our bread and butter AOE healing spell.  There are even some fights where Prayer of Healing may come out ahead of Circle of Healing.  Either way, Prayer of Healing is a spell you are going to be using a lot.  Having a heal over time effect stay on your targets afterwards, to go along with the heal over time left behind by our mastery can go a long way towards helping bring your raid back up to full much quicker and with less mana being spent by you or others to do so.

Major Glyphs

Glyph of Circle of Healing
Circle of Healing is currently our top performing spell, for the purposes of raid healing and should almost always be used off cooldown.  Because of how efficient and effective it is, having an additional target to extend its reach to is a huge bonus and this glyph allows that to happen.  Circle of Healing normally affects up to 5 targets, glyphed it can affect up to 6 and anyone in your raid can be healed by it.  It is not restricted by party or group, like Prayer of Healing is.  Because of the important place that Circle of Healing has in our arsenal right now, this glyph is an absolute must have for any raiding holy priest.

Glyph of Psychic Scream
This glyph would also be a prime choice for any up and coming priest, who is still dealing with the crowd control woes that come along with Heroic 5 mans or if you just like to have an extra line of defense in case something goes wrong during a pull.  I wouldn’t recommend using this glyph all the time, but I would recommend it specifically for the Cho’gall encounter.  It’s important that anyone who can stop people from Worshipping do so and you may be the only person in range to make that happen.  A well timed fear can break the channeling, without causing them to run helplessly into fire or other harmful effects.  This glyph allows you to get the same desired effect, but in a more controlled fashion.

Glyph of Prayer of Mending
This glyph was a recent addition to the list of available priest glyphs and easily worked its way into our good graces.  Prayer of Mending is something every priest should still be throwing out there off cooldown and odds are you’re going to be throwing it on the tank first, which means they will be getting hit relatively quickly, the first charge will be expended and it will be 60% stronger while this glyph is active.  This glyph can cause Prayer of Mending to have a higher showing on the meters and to put out more throughput on certain fights.  Definitely pick this one up.

Glyph of Desperation
Another recent addition to the game, this glyph tends to get underestimated by those who feel it is only a PVP glyph and doesn’t have much usefulness in a PVE setting.  I wholeheartedly disagree.  Anytime you are stunned as a healer is a time where your tank can die because you cannot heal them and cannot place a cooldown on them that could save their life.  Specific examples where I have seen this glyph shine are during Halfus (both Heroic and regular) and on Heroic Magmaw.  Typically, I keep this glyph in more often that not and you should, too.

Glyph of Fade
For fights where its important for the tank to keep a number of adds busy (i.e. most fights), this glyph can help take the focus off of you, especially if you find you’re putting out large amounts of healing and you can see your threat climbing because of it.  We are one of two healers with an actual aggro dump, so don’t be afraid to use it.  While you would think aggro wouldn’t be an issue for you, it can become one on more trying encounters like Heroic Maloriak, Cho’gall, and Nefarian.

Minor Glyphs

Glyph of Fortitude
At some point during an encounter, someone is bound to die.  It happens!  Fortunately, we have a number of ways to bring someone back from the dead during combat (i.e. a battle res or a Soulstone) and they will probably need to be re-buffed.  This glyph helps you re-buff them on the fly, without cutting too much into your mana that you will need for other things (like actual healing).

Glyph of Fading
This one works well with Glyph of Fade and allows you to cast Fade for less mana, in addition to having it available more often.  I wouldn’t really take one without the other, so if you’re not using Glyph of Fade, you probably don’t have much need for this one.

Glyph of Levitate
Levitate provides a neat looking effect and most of our minor glyphs are pretty sub par otherwise.  That’s all I can really say about this one.  I keep it for vanity purposes.  Feel free to do the same.

Glyph of Shadowfiend
One way that Blizzard responded to complaints about the survivability of the shadowfiend was to implement this glyph, which allows you to get mana back if the fiend dies prematurely.  I would think you would stand to get more mana back from having it alive, so try not to go out of your way to purposely kill it.  But if it does happen, you would at least get some mana back for the trouble.  This would be the second minor glyph that I would consider a must have, next to Glyph of Fortitude.

That should be it for this installment of the L2Holy series.  Next up will be discussions about gems and reforging.  If there is anything else you would like to see covered that could be of assistance as a holy priest, feel free to drop me a line or a comment and I will certainly consider coming up with something to accomodate that.

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16 Responses to “L2Holy: Glyphs”

  1. gina April 21, 2011 at 6:44 am #

    Great post! Really gets me thinking that I should try holy again… but the last time I lasted 1 boss fight before going back to disc haha! I need a holy mentor! Help meh!

    Urgh, wish we had tri-spec 😦

    • Oestrus April 21, 2011 at 7:19 am #

      I think I would probably be just as confused, if I tried to go disc. I know my guild would like to eventually have me develop and learn a disc spec – but there is no real hurry for that to happen (so I’ve been told). It’s more of a future goal, than anything.

      I did try to incorporate Evangelism/Archangel into my holy spec for H Chimaeron and it was a mess. I got so distracted Smiting that I wasn’t healing correctly and I threw in the towel pretty quickly. I tip my hat to those who can pull that off without missing a beat!

  2. Tomaj April 21, 2011 at 2:37 pm #

    Not that I use it, but what about Glyph of Renew? Also, Glyph of Desperation is definitely handy for some trash mobs, too (I’m looking at you, drakonids in BWD).

    A couple things to note, though (not that these need to be added but something for discussion):

    Glyph of Fortitude is not as great as it once was, with Fort only costing ~4k mana now – it’s still a nice savings, but even so, it’s not nearly as bad as the once 16k mana or so.

    Glyph of Divine Accuracy for Chimaeron, especially if you’re not tank healing, for phase 3. I actually swap out Glyph of Prayer of Mending for this fight because I’m always on Caustic Slime duty, and this is the only fight I’m not using PoM on cooldown.

    Glyph of Levitate is, IMNSHO, required. I don’t know about you, but I hate reagents. Levitate without feathers = win.

    Glyph of Fading (even without Glyph of Fade) is really, really good for Magmaw – the adds only come about every 45 seconds or so on normal, so the reduced cooldown isn’t really necessary. And if someone isn’t picking up adds in your Fade timer… well, there’s something wrong, and it has nothing to do with your Fade cooldown.

    Glyph of Mass Dispel for some nice utility when a lot of crap needs to be dispelled at once. This definitely will get more use in 25-man (such as Argaloth) rather than 10-man just due to the number of debuffs going out, but still a nice one.

    • Oestrus April 21, 2011 at 2:58 pm #

      I wouldn’t recommend Glyph of Renew, because of how little use Renew sees and in comparison to the other glyphs that are in the running for the slot, I feel it really doesn’t hold a candle to them.

      Glyph of Fortitude is minor and most of the minors are pretty interchangeable or could be. I don’t really feel that any of them are “game changers,” but they each kind of help in their own small ways.

      Glyph of Divine Accuracy is reasonable for the reason you suggested. I know I was encouraged to try an Evangelism/Archangel spec for Heroic version of that fight, so that during down time I could boost my healing for the Feud phases and I wasn’t able to juggle it very well. It has a lot of potential – just not for me.

      I don’t think I’ve ever had an issue with add aggro on Magmaw, but I know it’s come up on Nefarian quite a bit and sometimes even Maloriak. But if you are having trouble on Magmaw, then yes that glyph would be a big help for you.

      I can’t see Glyph of Mass Dispel having any other real use for anything other than Argaloth. Even then, I can’t see it making or breaking your raid. Helpful, yes. Mandatory, no.

      Good suggestions, otherwise!

      • Zinn April 21, 2011 at 6:03 pm #

        It’s a tough choice I think, between Renew and Shield glyph. Personally I feel like Glyph of Renew probably pulls out a lot more healing done in the end than Glyph of Power Word: Shield would, but as I’ve often said – it comes down to healing style. Eventhough I don’t think the renew glyph is awesome (actually rather meh), most holy priests use a lot more renews than shields. The hpm of the shield is pretty bad for holy as well, especially when compared to renew. If anything I wouldn’t recommend it for a new holy priest, but rather for someone who has the mana to use it. I can imagine it’s rather useful in tougher raiding content especially since it refreshes renew, I must try that out!

        • Oestrus April 22, 2011 at 7:03 am #

          I can agree with you, Zinn that if you’re just at the 5 man or Heroic 5 man level, you probably could use Glyph of Renew and Glyph of PW: Shield – since you probably wouldn’t need Glyph of Lightwell, at that stage. Once you start raiding, I wouldn’t suggest either glyph, but I would insist on Glyph of Lightwell.

          By the way, do you have a Twitter account, Zinn? I would love to Follow you and stay in touch with you more. Let me know!

      • Tomaj April 21, 2011 at 7:56 pm #

        Yeah – I used Glyph of Fort til the reduced mana cost came in, then found it to be fairly unnecessary, but in general, I actually found that Glyph of Fading actually saved me more mana in the long run (mostly because of Magmaw/Nefarian/Malorak/Halfus adds – Halfus because sometimes the whelps are stupid with their aggro).

        Is H Chim different in p3 that Evan/AA would be better then in p3?

        You are right, Mass Dispel sees most use in BH (as well as a couple heroics and PvP), but it’s also something I use on Atramedes trash because of that stupid Stormbolt for our melee. >.< Gods, I hate Stormbolt.

        • Oestrus April 22, 2011 at 7:05 am #

          It’s not that Evan/AA would be better elsewhere than in P3, it’s that you have something to do if your party is not slimed or not many are slimed. You can build up stacks and then when the Feud comes (which hits harder on Heroic), you have more spellpower to keep your people up with.

          I would say Evan/AA is equally useful for the times in between (when you’re able to do it) and in P3. Don’t forget to be in Chakra: Chastise while you’re doing all that Smiting!

          • Tomaj April 22, 2011 at 1:40 pm #

            Ah, that makes sense. Though, there is one other glyph that I do use on occasion as well (Argaloth 10-man, Atramedes trash again, Valiona/Theralion, and Ascendant Council) – Glyph of Dispel Magic. It’s like a priest’s version of Cleansing Waters for shaman, and it’s pretty decent to have in situations where there *aren’t* that many dispels going out, but damage is still a concern, and say you’re assigned to those dispels. Usually our shaman covers dispels on V/T, but I’ve done it before as well, and we usually split the dispels on AC (one gets Heart of Ice, the other gets Burning Blood).

  3. Bellanorra April 21, 2011 at 4:37 pm #

    Great post as always, I rarely go holy but I am an officer and help our healing officer from time to time or in his absence so I try to stay up on all the healer spec/class combos and your blog is one of the ones I really like to follow.

    I do understand your point of Glyph of Power Word: Shield but as a disc I just ask that if anyone is planning on shielding the tank and they do run with a disc priest that they talk to the disc first, I know that personally even when disc raid healing I use my PWS on the tank for rapture return. I would probably suggest only PWS tanks as holy for Body & Soul when needed. But that’s just my opinion.

    • Oestrus April 21, 2011 at 4:48 pm #

      I agree with you completely, Bella.

      Because I feel this glyph is better for an up and coming holy priest, they would obviously be the only ones shielding their tank (like in 5 mans). If you are told to shield your tank over a disc priest in a raid setting, then this glyph would work well with your Chakra: Serenity bonus.

      🙂

      • Bellanorra April 21, 2011 at 5:30 pm #

        Yeah I totally agree, it would probably be great in 5 mans. Love the blogs and podcast was great 🙂

        • Oestrus April 22, 2011 at 7:01 am #

          Thank you! Once Ophelie comes back from Cuba, we can start putting together our next show with Lady Erinia. It should be a good time!

  4. Lunarsoul April 24, 2011 at 9:43 am #

    Personally I run with:

    Glyph of GS
    Glyph of Renew
    Glyph of PoH

    Glyph of PoM
    Glyph of CoH
    Glyph of Dispel Magic

    I’m thinking of switching from Renew to Lightwell, but I’m still having problems “training” my raid to use the Lightwell up when needed. I’m finding that my charges aren’t being used up during the 3 minute duration. If I glyph for it and the charges aren’t being utilized its a wasted glyph spot for me.

    I use Glyph of Dispel Magic mainly because there aren’t any other “mandatory” glyphs and the heal from it is a nice little perk since it benefits from mastery.

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